Dae Bogan to Speak at Trends Brasil Conference

I will be speaking at Trends Brasil Conference in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil @trendsbrasilconference
“ROYALTY MANAGEMENT AROUND THE WORLD”
🗓️ Tuesday, December 2, 2025
⏰ 4pm-4:55pm
🚪 Legal Stage
📍 ExpoRio Cidade Nova
Speakers:
• Dae Bogan (MLC)
• Lucas Zew (BackOffice)
• Gustavo Gonzalez (Abramus Digital, moderator)
On AI in the Music Industry

I have been writing and talking about the use of AI in the music industry since I developed and taught the course “Music Tech Innovation: Launching New Ventures” at UCLA Herb Alpert School of Music in 2016 when I was an Innovation Fellow at the UCLA Center for Music Innovation.
At the time, there were dozens of startups in accelerators and incubators across the US and around the world building AI tools and ML projects to address various aspects of music creation and data analytics.
I had been running my consultancy agency, Rights Department, where I helped founders navigate the intellectual property implications of their startups as well as develop go-to-market strategies. I was also a mentor to startups through a few accelerator programs and an advisor to a roster of music tech and digital media startups through my ENT Ventures, LLC advisory brand. Later, I would feature some of these companies, including those involved in cryptocurrency, augmented reality, NFTs, and blockchain in my lecture that I gave at universities and the Music Biz Conference titled “Music 2020: The Next Era of Innovation in the Music Industry” (https://daeboganmusic.com/2018/10/12/music-2020-the-next-era-of-innovation-in-the-music-industry/)
In early 2019, I wrote a note titled “Are Founders Of AI Music Services Being Disingenuous When They Tell Human Music Creators Not To Worry Or Are They Just Clueless?” where I asked:
“Recently, we’ve seen AVIA become the first AI to be recognized as a composer represented by the French performing rights society SACEM (I have bigger concern over the implication of recognizing AI as a composer and what that could mean to the legal definition of an author under copyright law) and Endel recently became the first AI to land a major label record deal with Warner Music Group.
If AVIA is a composer and Endel is a recording artist, and they can produce massive volumes of content (WMG is releasing 20 albums by Endel this year alone), what does this mean for the quality and pace of human-created music?” (https://daeboganmusic.com/2019/03/22/are-founders-of-ai-music-services-being-disingenuous-when-they-tell-human-music-creators-not-to-worry-or-are-they-just-clueless/)
This past week, ASCAP, BMI, and SOCAN — the largest public performance organizations in North America that represent millions of music creators — put out a joint statement announcing the acceptance of registrations of partially AI-generated songs and thus clarifying that partially AI-generated songs are eligible to receive public performance royalty payments. (https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/ascap-bmi-and-socan-will-now-accept-registrations-of-partially-ai-generated-musical-works/)
So, the news that AI singer Xania Monet being charted for radio airplay on Billboard means that the songwriter will be able to receive public performance royalties for those plays, in addition to the royalties for the streams on digital music services. (https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/01/entertainment/xania-monet-billboard-ai)
So, that brings me back to the question I asked in 2018: “Are Founders Of AI Music Services Being Disingenuous When They Tell Human Music Creators Not To Worry Or Are They Just Clueless?”
In September this year, I spoke on a panel about AI in the music industry at the Bogotá Music Market in Bogotá, Colombia. I argued that music creators and consumers will have to reconcile our tolerance for creativity and authenticity in the AI-music era and promoted the responsible use of AI as a tool, an innovation in the evolution of the arts no different, fundamentally, from innovations of decades past (enter the printing press, the electronic guitar and synthesizers). (https://www.instagram.com/p/DOgkjVUDT1A)
Some artists will leverage AI as a tool (there are many use cases other than generative AI vocals). Some will resist and possibly fall short. But what is clear to me is that the evolution, which begun as scrappy projects by founders and small teams in the 2010s is now being accelerated by multi-billion dollar investments, regulatory overhauls, and innovative creators who enjoy and do not fear new tools.
And what about consumers? How do consumers feel?
[Podcast] Host Harkos Interviews Dae Bogan on the ‘Music Makin Cents’ Podcast

I sat down with host Harkos of the “Music Makin Cents Podcast” to talk about different ways to make money from your music. Watch the episode here or below.
The MLC Has Distributed $3bn+ To Songwriters And Publishers To Date

“The MLC has become the largest single source of U.S. digital revenue for songwriters and publishers — distributing more than $3 billion in royalties since launching operations, at no cost to our Members.” – Alisa Coleman, The MLC
Music Business Worldwide reported that The MLC has “confirmed that it has exceeded $3 billion in royalties distributed to publishers and songwriters since launching full operations in 2021.”
I’m proud to work with a team of talented and passionate people at The MLC who care deeply about getting songwriters and music publishers paid. And I am also proud to support music rights and royalty tech founders who invest endless hours and limited resources to create a positive impact on the livelihoods of their customers — the world’s independent music creators.
Prior to joining The MLC, exactly 10 years ago this month in October 2015, I founded several startups to address the “black box” issue, including TuneRegistry (with co-founders Jesse Morris, Kara Lorraine McGehee, and Shane Zilinskas), which enabled music creators to, for the first time, fully control the administration of their songs and recordings in the United States, and a year later in October 2016, I founded RoyaltyClaim, which innovated the Section 115 NOI (compulsory mechanical license) lookup and rightsholder notification process and was the world’s first multi-territory search engine of unclaimed music royalties.
At the time, there were no society-backed public data feeds or relevant APIs that enabled music rights and royalty tech companies to access transparent data regarding song ownership, share claims, unmatched recordings, and unclaimed royalties making it nearly impossible for founders to build robust solutions to support songwriters and publishers with royalty forensics, catalog reconciliation, and identifying and resolving issues that lead to unclaimed royalties. And there were few societies with departments dedicated to engaging with tech founders who dared to invest in these pursuits.
Today, I am proud to say that The MLC has changed that. As an organization with a department dedicated to interacting with and supporting music rights and royalty tech companies, we have empowered hundreds of companies around the world with unprecedent access to data that has informed business decisions and fueled the creation of new features that help their customers get paid.
As a former music rights and royalty tech founder myself, I couldn’t be prouder to head that department, to manage data programs and strategic outreach efforts, and to interact with and support hundreds of founders around the world who’s collective efforts has contributed to The MLC reaching this breakthrough milestone of $3Bn in royalties distributed.
To all of the music rights and royalty tech founders out there who have called on my team, met with me, invited me to set in hundreds of hours of demos and strategy sessions over the past 5 years, this is a special shoutout and thank you to you for being the innovators effecting change on the ground!
Dae Bogan Joins Speaker Roster for Trends Brasil Conference in Rio de Janiero

I’m looking forward to speaking at Trends Brasil Conference taking place two months from today in Rio de Janeiro.
Learn more at https://www.trendsbrasilconference.com.br/
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On Preparing for an AI Future
“A child born today will never be smarted than artificial intelligence (AI).” – Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI and ChatGPT
A child born today will grow up surrounded by AI powered experiences. In fact, by the time a child born today reaches adulthood, he will likely take the existence of AI for granted; as normal and expected. Take for example electricity and plumbing, vehicles and aircraft, medicine and psychiatry (as opposed to witchcraft). The age of enlightenment and the industrial revolution changed the human experience and human expectations.
Time morphed magnificent inventions and discoveries into basic necessities and human rights. AI, too, will make discoveries and change how we do things, but at a faster speed of technological evolution than humanity has ever experienced before. The rate of change in 10 years will be equivalent to the rate of change of 100 years in the past. This means that the learning curve will be sharp and people will be left behind.
By the time a middle school student today graduates college, half of college-educated white collar skilled jobs may be replaced by AI software and blue collar skilled jobs will be replaced or reduced by AI robots.
Music 2020: The Next Era of Innovation in the Music Industry
Knowledge will boast ego more than it creates a competitive advantage. That is, with all the world’s knowledge about any given topic accurately and immediately available and accessible to anyone at anytime, the need for subject matter experts in some fields will greatly decline. Objective fields such as finance, mathematics, history, language, some sciences, contract law, and others are susceptible to delution by AI replacement faster than subjective fields requiring human discernment, emotion, and context. Although, the creative class—a subjective field—is an exception.
So, the question is: How are you preparing your child for an AI future and how do today’s adults maintain relevance as the nature of work and human interaction evolves?
I attended a luncheon and networking event in Medellin yesterday with AI developers and entrepreneurs from around the world. What many employees may not know is that CEOs are already thinking about what aspects of their business can be made more efficient by AI. In other words, who can be replaced by AI.
In 2018, I made predictions on how the music industry would evolve in the 2020’s. Nearly every prediction that I made has come to fruition, including the rise of AI in the music industry.
Have you begun thinking about your industry?
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