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Infinite Licensing in Gen-AI Music Ecosystems will Create Fairer Music Value Calculations for Artists and Rightsholders

Dae Bogan excerpt from the webinar “The Permission Layer for AI Music: Consent, Attribution, and Getting Artists Paid” hosted by Abbi Press for The Double Helix on November 12, 2025

Infinite licensing (IL) will be the most effective and fair system of music rights licensing and remuneration in the gen-AI music era.

I believe we will see clear elements of it by 2030.

I appreciate Abbi Press’s perspective on the human element of music licensing. As a professional in the licensing space, she raises a number of important issues that would have to be acknowledged—then solved? ignored? or avoided?—for any compelling infinite licensing (IL) system to become widely adopted.

This is why I predict that we will not see a system close to my vision of IL until around 2030.

I believe that this is an important conversation, because at the core of it, the question is “Do current licensing frameworks benefit music creators?”

Even so-called ethically-sourced and ethically-trained AI music ecosystems do not fairly compensate the music creators whose music is contributing to gen-AI music.

IL will enable dynamic market-value calculations that smart contracts, opt-ins, royalty pools, and settlements cannot and have never fully captured.

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Dae Bogan excerpt on the panel “Revolutionizing Rights Management for Artists“ at ASCAP Expo 2018

Infinite Licensing in AI Music

Dae Bogan and Scott Cohen (then Chief Innovation Officer, Warner Music Group) presenting the lecture “Music 2020: The Next Era of Innovation in the Music Industry” at Music Biz Conference 2019

For a few years now, in private conversations with various technologists, music rightsholders and fellow data nerds, I’ve been using, and trying to coin, the term “infinite licensing” to describe the concept of real-time AI-powered dynamic licensing of rights in both generative-AI and single-source derivative AI music applications.

No, I am not talking about smart contracts, which are finite preset rules hardcoded in a file that is then minted to a blockchain, but rather the convergence of AI (conceptual/subjective/ecosystem) and blockchain (context/ownership) within the permission layer of applications that can generate an infinite ♾️ combination of licensing deal terms.

Infinite licensing would behave sort of like an oracle within applications to dynamically value and clear rights in machine-to-machine, business-to-business, and consumer-to-machine applications, going beyond the scope of human objectivity, individual experience in negotiation and valuation, and workload capacity in the licensing process.

It removes limiting royalty formulas and most favored nations models and replaces them with highly customized and more commercially accurate representations of value at a given point in time.

I imagine a future where an AI system built on an LLM that has learned from previous licensing deals (and the outcomes and missed opportunities of such deals), ingested airplay and streaming stats, interpreted correlations and trends, while calculating the lost value of undervalued deals, analyzed historical sync data, quantifies hype, ingested sales data, and consumer behavior and sentiment data, etc. would dynamically determine rates and terms for gen-AI and single-source derivative AI music outputs.

Infinite licensing, unlike smart contracts, could factor in variations in types of use, the real commercial value of the source music involved, the perceived cultural value of music creators involved, the market value of the opportunity, and much more.

The blockchain aspect, which has been in development across a variety of projects and startups for over 10 years now, would provide the architecture for transparent and immutable rights management while remuneration could be supported by cryptocurrency.

In 2019, when I presented my lecture “Music 2020: The Next Era of Innovation in the Music Industry” at the California Institute of The Arts and again at Music Biz Conference, I argued that artificial intelligence, blockchain, and cryptocurrency would be among the technologies that will transform the music industry in the 2020’s.

California Institute of the Arts

We’re halfway through the 2020’s and I think someone will figure out infinite licensing before 2030.

The Permission Layer for AI Music: Consent, Attribution, and Getting Artists Paid

The Permission Layer for AI Music: Consent, Attribution, and Getting Artists Paid

🗓️ Wednesday, November 12, 2025
⏰ 9am PT • 11am CT • 12pm ET

How do you scale artist consent across millions of AI-generated tracks? What infrastructure makes attribution and payment actually possible?

AI music is charting on Billboard, signing major label deals, and reshaping production workflows. This panel brings together the architects building the permission layer to explore the frameworks being built right now—from control and consent to metadata and royalty tracking—that will determine how AI music enters advertising, brand campaigns, and commercial licensing.

Essential for brand marketers, creative directors, music supervisors, artists, business affairs teams, and anyone navigating music licensing in the AI era.

Host/Moderator: Abbi Press, Global Lead Business Affairs Manager, Creative at Uber | Founder of The Double Helix

Speakers:

  • Daouda Leonard, Co-Founder & CEO, CreateSafe
  • Dae Bogan, Head of Third-Party Partnerships, The Mechanical Licensing Collective
  • Marc Rucker, Associate Director of Artist & Industry Relations, SoundExchange
  • Tushar Apte, Music Producer/Songwriter/Composer, Warner Chappell Music

Register: https://luma.com/500w2bvc

The MLC presents RegFest

The MLC Presents: RegFest

Songwriters, artists, producers, and rightsholders — don’t miss this free online webinar to maximize your streaming royalties and protect your rights! Join award-winning songwriter and artist Cassandra Kubinski and The MLC’s Dae Bogan as they cover how to register your works and claim all your income streams.

🗓️ Monday, November 10th
⏰ 12pm PT • 2pm CT • 3pm ET

Register at https://themlc.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_5WmDEPi0ThaFRZQFiDLC3A

[Podcast] Aggressive Ambition: Dae Bogan’s Journey to The MLC — Gig Gab 491

[Podcast] Aggressive Ambition: Dae Bogan’s Journey to The MLC — Gig Gab 491

Dae Bogan from The MLC breaks down music royalties with Dave Hamilton on this week’s Gig Gab. From the ancient days of piano rolls to the tangled web of modern streaming, you’ll learn how mechanical royalties differ from performance rights and why most artists are leaving money on the table. The MLC—born from the Music Modernization Act of 2018—isn’t just another acronym; it’s the missing piece of the puzzle, and Dae’s been there since before the beginning, shaping the system from the inside out.

But this episode goes beyond the mechanics. Dae shares his raw, unfiltered story, from homelessness at 18 to building multiple startups and becoming a sought-after voice in music licensing. He didn’t just climb the ladder: he built it, all while staying true to his mission. You’ll hear how empathy, grit, and yes, aggressive ambition became his tools for success. Tune in, learn how not to make the mistake nearly every artist makes, and remember: Always Be Performing.

https://www.giggabpodcast.com/2025/07/21/aggressive-ambition-dae-bogans-journey-to-the-mlc-gig-gab-491/

The Socioeconomics of Globalization vs. Glocalization and Why Indie Artists in the Global South Have It Harder

I have been having this very candid conversation about the digital music ecosystem and the socioeconomics (and sociocultural) factors at play in “globalization vs. glocalization” for years now.

Ever since I began exploring the “global south” in 2021, from South America to Southeast Asia to South Africa, and then subsequently moved to Latin America, I’ve observed challenges for local music creators and opportunities for Western music creators.

Artist earnings, in the digital space, are a factor of the socioeconomic health of the region in which artists receive most of their consumption. Two artists from two different countries with the same number of monthly listeners within their own country (glocalization) may not earn the same income due to the differences in the socioeconomic health of their respective countries.

The issue of socioeconomic health is exacerbated by poor copyright compliance and broken or insufficient licensing and royalty collection infrastructure.

Independent artists in lower socioeconomic markets could attempt to look for international collaborations with artists that can introduce them to listeners in more developed markets and they could leverage opportunities to exploit their music in ways that create discovery in new markets (e.g. synch, playlists, etc.). This will aid in exposing the music and eventually earning consumption in other foreign markets (globalization), possibly with better socioeconomic health (or at least higher royalty rates).

Additionally, indie artists should leverage communities like Vampr and BandLab Technologies and other such companies to connect and collaborate with artists, songwriters, and music producers to strive for cross-border appeal and opportunity.

Dae Bogan To Lead Seminar “The Art And Business Of Songwriting Collabs”

New technologies and online resources have made it possible for songwriters to find and collaborate with fellow songwriters, musicians, and singers from around the world more efficiently and economically than ever before. The convenient nature of the virtual collaboration and music production ecosystem has contributed to the explosion of independent music made available on digital music services today. Accordingly, the RIAA and IFPI have both reported steady growth in independent music in the last few years.

Now, it’s your turn to get involved in the collab movement! Register to attend this insightful webinar on Thursday, June 20th, where Dae Bogan Music, Head of Third-Party Partnerships at The MLC, and Kevin McCarty, CEO and Co-Founder at We Should Write Sometime, will discuss the art and business of songwriting collabs while highlighting WSWS app features for songwriters and The MLC’s tools and resources for self-administered songwriters.

Save your spot here: https://go.themlc.com/weShouldWriteSometime2024

Dae Bogan to Join Panel On The Future of Music Publishing & AI at Canadian Music Week 2024

I’m coming to Toronto 🇨🇦 for Canadian Music Week June 2-5!!

I am looking forward to speaking on the panel “Harmony & Code: The Future of Music Publishing in the AI Era” on June 3rd at 12 PM. Tap in if you’ll be there!

Harmony & Code: The Future of Music Publishing in the AI Era

Join us for a compelling panel discussion where we explore the transformative impact of technology on the music publishing industry. This session will explore critical questions at the intersection of tech and music: What implications does AI have for the roles of music publishers and artists alike? What tools do artists need to thrive in this new landscape? We’ll examine the future of copyright laws, ponder the necessity of new rights, and debate how technology can coexist with music without exploiting creators. Don’t miss this essential conversation on the evolution of music rights in the digital age, designed for publishers, tech companies, and artists ready to navigate these changes.

Moderated By: Cole Davis Founder & CEO Switchchord

  • Chris Dampier, Head of North America – Sentric Music
  • Dae Bogan, Head of Third-Party Partnerships – The Mechanical Licensing Collective
  • Paul Shaver, President – CMRRA (Canadian Musical Reproduction Rights Agency Ltd) and SX Works
  • Virginie Berger, Chief Business Development and Rights Officer – Matchtune

Learn more at https://cmw.net/